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Re: SEO is Dead

Jim "Genuine" Turner — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:02:17 -0000

I personally prefer other sources of traffic besides seo but the truth is that #1 spot is worth money even if you just flip the site in it's prime.

Re: SEO is Dead

kamalpatel — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:37:35 -0000

I agree with you Micah..............

Re: SEO is Dead

Sherri — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:26:55 -0000

I've spent the past hour reading this blog, and following links on the blog. What a fascinating topic. Seriously, I don't think I have anything to add as I am just eager to read more! I see this topic is months old but will keep garnering replies and opinions for years to come I imagine!

Re: SEO is Dead

Acnezine — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:47:43 -0000

I have to say, I don't 100% agree.
What's stopping seo's to use social media or video sites to promote their business?
This will only make things a lot like the beginning of seo: only the good ones will survive.

Re: SEO is Dead

Sansar Grewal — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:12:08 -0000

great conversation for knowledge

Re: SEO is Dead

lynnwenger — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:22:21 -0000

I've recently started using Twitter to keyword search topics like "SEO" so I can find good sites that are recommended by people, rather than marketers. I wonder if Twitter will some day replace google?

Re: SEO is Dead

Lynn Wenger — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:18:06 -0000

I've recently realized that I'm doing more keyword searches in Twitter to find recommendations to websites than I am finding in the search engines. For example, keyword search "SEO" and you'll get more reliable hits in Twitter. Maybe Twitter is going to replace Google some day soon?

Re: SEO is Dead

CRS — Tue, 26 May 2009 11:37:10 -0000

So Josh, You are basically bragging about how the Black Hat site you created beat out the White Hat site?? Well of course it did, but that that's not a good long-range tactic. Good luck with that "principle" guiding your business.

Re: SEO is Dead

Josh — Fri, 01 May 2009 13:02:30 -0000

Also social media sites are fad. They come and go. Twitter announed this week that 40% of the users using this service never come back! So being ahead of the competition is the key to being a good SEO guy. Also the guy who said that HTML coder is the same as a SEO guy is also the stupid comment I have ever heard. Think about it idiot! HTML is a set standard doesn't change. SEO always is changing and adapting to the market. So how can you compare HTML coder to a SEO guy. WOW everyone is an SEO expert these days but the comments I heard are so full of crap. Most of you on here commmenting I guarantee make crap money and because you are not successful doesn't mean others are in the same shoe as you. I guess the saying when your on top everyone wants to bring you down is a fair comment.

Re: SEO is Dead

josh — Fri, 01 May 2009 12:57:53 -0000

I totally disagree with you on this article to say that SEO will be gone in 3 years. I currently have my own SEO consulting company and I can tell you it is going stronger than ever. First of all just because you have a work force of all these players helping you SEO does not mean it will be effective. Working smarter and not harder is the key to being a good SEO person. I will give you an example as a test site I did. I had 2 website created one using Whitehat Practices that typically companies will use and Blackhat Practices that I use. The Whitehat Practice website never got up on the first page and my other site did. And second website search engines are always changing to improve search engine results if you know how to manipulate them to beat the big competitors you will always have work. I have gotten first page ranking on very competitive keywords vs companies that are doing in house marketing. The reason is because the people at there 9-5 jobs do not care about what they do normally. They are there to get a pay check and be finished. It is my passion to be beat the big competitors on there own keywords. To say that SEO will die in 3 years is a foolish comment and you are not very wise at all. Why not give examples of keywords you have ranked very high on and let me try to out rank you!!! YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP! You either dont know anything about this business or you are angry because bad SEO guys are getting the work you want to get. Either way you are uninformed and your article is a complete waste of time and space on the internet!

Re: SEO is Dead

New Orleans Computer Repair — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:42:29 -0000

SEO dies when Google dies. There's an old ancient proverb: "TO SEO, IS TO OPTIMIZE FOR ONE'S SEARCH"

SEO IS A THRIVING MARKET.

You don't realize it, because we're not using old traditional methods, but rather, were our here on MySpace, Digg, and CitySearch making it happen and we're better than ever. When you search, you find what we want you to find. Cut and dry.

Re: SEO is Dead

5593907 — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:11:19 -0000

Micah - I agree with some of your points and disagree with others. For example, I agree with your suggestion that companies consider taking SEO activities in-house and integrate it within marketing, development, etc. as that will most likely be benefical in the long term. While I don't believe that SEO is some form of black magic voodoo, I do believe that it takes some experience to master. Merely utilizing Google's best practices, along with some title optimization, won't be enough in a highly competitive market. In those markets, you'll need to be very good at several specific SEO based responsibilities to even moderately compete. Giving your IT guy or girl a book on SEO and cutting them loose, won't do it.

I do agree that SEO will change and evolve over the next few years, but it's been doing that since it's inception.

Re: SEO is Dead

search_engine_optimization — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:31:14 -0000

I quess I'll have to start looking for a new day job.. lmao

Re: SEO is Dead

CarissaPutri — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:21:11 -0000

What i know about SEO is just how we optimize keywords and inbound links. as long as we do it correctly, we'll move to the top spots of the rankings. Considering the statement whether SEO is dead or not, i have no comment :D

Re: SEO is Dead

Ambassador — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:07:31 -0000

I can't disagree with this blog post more...and many of the comments afterword. It reminds my of the guy who retired from the US Patent Office in 1894 because he was convinced that everything of meaning that could be invented, had been invented by then.

I doubt I'll change anybody's mind here.

That said, it will be interesting to see what everyone is saying 3 years up the road. Here are my reasons why SEO will be hear 3, 5 and even 10 years from now.

1) Good SEO works. I agree with the sentiment that MOST SEO techs don't know true SEO. However, don't lump all SEO firms into the same pile. There are many good/ethical onsite and offsite optimization techniques that can move a website up to the top. We do it every day in our company.

2) There will always be a need for SERVICE. Of the 24 million small businesses out there, the vast majority of them can not or will do it for themselves; and they shouldn't. Business owners should always focus on their core competencies...deviating divides their energy, their focus and costs big money. I was taught by a very successful man "don't do anything in your business you can pay someone else to do, only do the things you can't pay someone else to do". Most business management can no more design a good website, create outstanding content and do all the things to get them to the top of the search engines for relevant terms than they can to Network their own computers, design their ASP database, build a web application, do their own accounting or be their own electrician. The smart ones will focus on their core skills and hire a professional for the rest.

Effective SEO for competitive terms is certainly not as easy as some of the comments suggest. But even If they could do it themselves..who wants to. I can cut my own lawn or fertalize my own yard...but I'm not going to. Why should I when my lawn guy does it for $100 per month and Chemlawn sprays for $39 three times per year.

Now I'm not naive, and certainly understand the industry will mature...I do believe things will be different down the road 3yrs, 5yrs and 10yrs from now. But there will be a methodology behind a Search Engine Algorithm and business websites will need to conform their websites to it.

Re: SEO is Dead

Ryan — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:55:53 -0000

There are so many University students who sailed through Uni learning nothing and now provide SEO for a living its a joke. Theres one guy I noticed today on Guru.Com who has a Masters Degree and is a SEO expert! Wonder why eh.

If you support SEO Services do you know know where to begin on creating an Administration area for their clients to edit their own META data or you have actually done it before? If your reading this and thinking, how and why or no then wake up to the fact your rubbish at web development and your job is about to come to an end!

All this "If SEO is dead who is going to edit the keywords" lol Pathetic. I write thousands of lines of complicated code for a living you SEO Experts bash on with your keywords that my own clients do themselves its so simple.

Rant over...
I agree SEO is dead and all my clients get admin pages to edit their own META data editor no matter how small or big the site is. I'm also taking part in campaigns to rid the internet of SEO Services and replace them with SEO Site Upgrades, all about improving sites long term/permanent. Something a lot of SEO people can't do they just can't cope, I know loads of them from University.

Re: SEO is Dead

Guitar_Guy — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:14:38 -0000

I agree that SEO experts as a whole will see their roles change over the course of the next few years as more and more companies learn how to "do it yourself". If you own an e-commerce site you know that it is very important to stay on top of trends, to have an ear to the ground at all times. For this you do need someone who is devoted to SEO, not someone who is managing it part-time amidst there other responsibilities. For this reason you will see alot of companies regret letting their SEO guy go too early in favor of doing it themselves.

Re: SEO is Dead

rahach — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:14:49 -0000

yep, seo is just about how many backlinks you have, both natural and unnatural links. that's why seo is dead. lol :D

Re: SEO is Dead

SEO_Test — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:45:13 -0000

maybe SEO could be dead soon. no one after this don't want to know about seo. what happen after this if seo dead soon? say good bye to seo. we'll wait what can be happen to seo after 5 years from know. who knows maybe seo is really dead.... the death of seo.

Re: SEO is Dead

rifchia — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:18:24 -0000

SEO is only a component of internet marketing which includes many others such as SEM, ORM, PPC, SMM, etc. The inclusion of Universal Search concept and other new concepts do not mean the death of SEO. It might be an evolution where many other factors are included in the rankings system.

Re: SEO is Dead

Martyn — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:02:10 -0000

I must say a great link bait article, but I think the subject is total rubbish!

I do work as a SEO consultant natural SEO traffic is more valuable then PPC traffic as it's leads to more conversions.

So I guess your statement untrue.

Re: SEO is Dead

globalrs — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:43:22 -0000

You're absolutely right. SEO is going to be dead meat soon.

Re: SEO is Dead

Robert — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:01:38 -0000

Nathan,
As a small manufacture of fine cigars we have a need for your services. There is so much "spin" ou there in regard to SEO work.
Many of the firms are using deceptive approaches and charge high prices for services that do not match their assurances. Its hard to find honest people in this field. We have something special to offer but getting the word out via SEO seems to be our only option.

Can you call me please: 1-888-751-3489
Best Regards,
Robert
Bucanero Cigars

Re: SEO is Dead

bob farley — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:47:06 -0000

unfortunately, the fact is that customers will continue to pay to be on top of others in search ranks. i have read mounds of these crapblogs in which users discuss that s.e.o. is feces (see what I did there?) and that it wont work in 'the end'. fact is: simply use relevant info - that will never be understood by a marketing agent that edits code in dreamweaver - no need for a cms with plugins. use a cms if you like, but its all the keywords that will only make a difference in 'the end'.

Do you all think this blog is to inform you about how s.e.o. is buried? it isn't. its s.e.o. in its purest form. think about it.

Re: SEO is Dead

micah — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:36:18 -0000

Let me guess, you are a SEO consultant? An affiliate marketer? Even small companies can integrate the basic tenents of SEO into their efforts. Of course, many small companies also dont have websites (using google maps, yahoo shopping, etc.), but of those that do, its not that hard to set up a wordpress install to suit their needs, install the basic plugins I outlined and get most of the way there technically. They need to spend some time and effort on learning how to write properly and keyword research, but again, no need for an "seo consultant" who either cannot charge a high enough rate to make it worth the consultants time (s/he would need a tons of clients), or spend the appropriate time (because they have tons of clients).

My point is still valid, successful companies control their own destinies and understand whats important to their business, rather than spending lots of money on consultants.

As to your comments about Lijit, well, given the immaturity of the comments, there is not much to say.